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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by jtdj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtdj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 02:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was surprised. There&#039;s beer and no fences after all.  Its a pretty comfortable festival to go to, despite the distance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was surprised. There&#8217;s beer and no fences after all.  Its a pretty comfortable festival to go to, despite the distance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by Archie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 11:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I take MASSIVE umbrage with this group buy thing. Seriously, talk about pissing off your audience, by releasing cheap tickets after most hardcore fans have already purchased full priced presale. more over at the Radar http://www.chinamusicradar.com/?p=3239

Am I allowed to cross post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I take MASSIVE umbrage with this group buy thing. Seriously, talk about pissing off your audience, by releasing cheap tickets after most hardcore fans have already purchased full priced presale. more over at the Radar <a href="http://www.chinamusicradar.com/?p=3239" rel="nofollow">http://www.chinamusicradar.com/?p=3239</a></p>
<p>Am I allowed to cross post?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rock Coming of Age? Muma on Gap, SUBS on Adidas&#8230;.. by Andy Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, you see, you have already done what the advertisers want and have accepted their (ridiculous) premise. Subs did indeed have a philosophy which could be linked with the word &#039;original.&#039; But that in itself has no connection to Adidas or their products. 

There is no connection between wearing the products in the photo and being original or in doing expressive work or music. None whatsoever. Also, the reason these cool people are wearing the clothing in the picture is because Adidas have paid them to, not because they are &#039;original&#039;. The whole thing is dishonest and manipulative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, you see, you have already done what the advertisers want and have accepted their (ridiculous) premise. Subs did indeed have a philosophy which could be linked with the word &#8216;original.&#8217; But that in itself has no connection to Adidas or their products. </p>
<p>There is no connection between wearing the products in the photo and being original or in doing expressive work or music. None whatsoever. Also, the reason these cool people are wearing the clothing in the picture is because Adidas have paid them to, not because they are &#8216;original&#8217;. The whole thing is dishonest and manipulative.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rock Coming of Age? Muma on Gap, SUBS on Adidas&#8230;.. by Beijing Daze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beijing Daze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, 

I personally think that the &quot;originals&quot; concept and philosophy is a good fit for SUBS, if nothing else just because they are one of the most original bands out there. It&#039;s not like they&#039;re advertising chewing gum or anything like that... I sure hope it doesn&#039;t get there! 

&quot;Reaching out&quot; in this case means, at least for me, recognizing that they exist and they have value and hopefully get them some more exposure. 

I don&#039;t think we have to draw a line in the sand about selling out or starving... at least, i choose not to. Heck, I&#039;m glad i don&#039;t have to make that choice. 
I&#039;m also not gonna condemn a band for taking advantage of an opportunity that comes their way.. as long as it doesn&#039;t change them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, </p>
<p>I personally think that the &#8220;originals&#8221; concept and philosophy is a good fit for SUBS, if nothing else just because they are one of the most original bands out there. It&#8217;s not like they&#8217;re advertising chewing gum or anything like that&#8230; I sure hope it doesn&#8217;t get there! </p>
<p>&#8220;Reaching out&#8221; in this case means, at least for me, recognizing that they exist and they have value and hopefully get them some more exposure. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think we have to draw a line in the sand about selling out or starving&#8230; at least, i choose not to. Heck, I&#8217;m glad i don&#8217;t have to make that choice.<br />
I&#8217;m also not gonna condemn a band for taking advantage of an opportunity that comes their way.. as long as it doesn&#8217;t change them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 04:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great reportage as usual, jtdj. thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great reportage as usual, jtdj. thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on Core in China Compilation Released&#8230; Get a Free Taste for the Heavier Side of Yaogun in the Big Silly by CORE IN CHINA &#124; Official Release Post &#124; Tell Us What You Think &#124; Rock in China</title>
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		<dc:creator>CORE IN CHINA &#124; Official Release Post &#124; Tell Us What You Think &#124; Rock in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 10:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the inofficial release as sneak previewed by Beijing Daze,  CORE IN CHINA was downloaded over 600 times (bandcamp), with additional 200 downloads on [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by MR RIGHT</title>
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		<dc:creator>MR RIGHT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 09:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamc arrived in beijing today !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamc arrived in beijing today !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rock Coming of Age? Muma on Gap, SUBS on Adidas&#8230;.. by Andy Best</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Best</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 08:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please explain, why Adidas &quot;fits&quot; Subs. And why you&#039;d use the expression &quot;reaching out.&quot;

And while you&#039;re at it, find out the figures on ad budgets run by companies like Nike and Adidas, internationally and historically. Then look at the the money paid to the organisers, like Neocha, by those companies. Then look at the amount that the artist gets paid in the end.

And shame on anyone who knows all this info and still describes this sort of thing as &#039;reaching out&#039; or &#039;helping.&#039; 

And how can anyone with a shred of dignity look at that Gap ad then not feel a drop off in respect for his music work. 

The Subs thing kills me. A pic of Kang Mao, in an ad, with stars and stripes clothes given to her by a sales rep. It&#039;s the opposite of what they used to stand for - and then the word &#039;original&#039; is stuck on it. That&#039;s like Orwellian doublespeak. War is peace. Or in this case, conformity is independence.

That&#039;s the world we live in now, sell out or starve: with legions of hip young graduates jet setting around the world using their social media to hype and legitimize this nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please explain, why Adidas &#8220;fits&#8221; Subs. And why you&#8217;d use the expression &#8220;reaching out.&#8221;</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, find out the figures on ad budgets run by companies like Nike and Adidas, internationally and historically. Then look at the the money paid to the organisers, like Neocha, by those companies. Then look at the amount that the artist gets paid in the end.</p>
<p>And shame on anyone who knows all this info and still describes this sort of thing as &#8216;reaching out&#8217; or &#8216;helping.&#8217; </p>
<p>And how can anyone with a shred of dignity look at that Gap ad then not feel a drop off in respect for his music work. </p>
<p>The Subs thing kills me. A pic of Kang Mao, in an ad, with stars and stripes clothes given to her by a sales rep. It&#8217;s the opposite of what they used to stand for &#8211; and then the word &#8216;original&#8217; is stuck on it. That&#8217;s like Orwellian doublespeak. War is peace. Or in this case, conformity is independence.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the world we live in now, sell out or starve: with legions of hip young graduates jet setting around the world using their social media to hype and legitimize this nonsense.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by jtdj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jtdj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 07:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as of now, there are no changes to the lineup.  I heard rumors that JAMC were having troubles, but I later got confirmation from organizers they&#039;re arriving in Beijing today and all is well. 

Apparently these low ticket prices were worked out as a side deal with Sendmetickets.com, which was awesome of them. I agree with Josh in saying that presale probably wasn&#039;t as good as the fest anticipated. 

But according to the CMV people today, unless the local authorities chill the hell out, the crowd-control fences are still going to be there and at this point, the fest is looking dry. organizers are still trying to work it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as of now, there are no changes to the lineup.  I heard rumors that JAMC were having troubles, but I later got confirmation from organizers they&#8217;re arriving in Beijing today and all is well. </p>
<p>Apparently these low ticket prices were worked out as a side deal with Sendmetickets.com, which was awesome of them. I agree with Josh in saying that presale probably wasn&#8217;t as good as the fest anticipated. </p>
<p>But according to the CMV people today, unless the local authorities chill the hell out, the crowd-control fences are still going to be there and at this point, the fest is looking dry. organizers are still trying to work it out.</p>
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		<title>Comment on CMV Tickets 150 RMB for a Limited Time: See Joss Stone, Jesus Mary Chain, White Lies &amp; More by josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 05:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m guessing either a) pre-sale has been really bad or b) a last-minute cancellation... or both?</description>
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